all i know is the p bikes are a money hole. everything on them will break or you'll fund it rediculously heavy. the bars are insanely heavy, along with the fork and the cranks

p3 or what other bike?

p3 comes with heavy cranks, bars, stem and pretty much everything. the stock p bikes weigh a shit load. i put 1100 into mine and it weighs 33 lbs. stock norco 250 for 1250 weighs 25.5 with cromo cranks and fun stem and bars.

umh yea i wouuld go with the p.3 becasue they are really nice and come with really nice parts and stuff and ya my bike rides like a dream

cheapest***... starting dj bikes.

p1 is one of the nicest starting dj bikes. frame is about the only good part on the whole bike and it's not even that spectacular. if you want a reliable simple bike, get a norco dj hardtail. 250 or even a 125.